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Nickodemus

Damn kids these days

I just wanted some of your two cents on this, after my ranting. Over a trip I took last weekend in south Florida I over heard a couple young (15-16ish) kids talking about paintball. One of them goes "I've gotten so much better, I empty my hopper in like 5 seconds now"

Call me old fashioned but hearing a player relatively new to the game say that sounded like nails on a chalkboard to me. I didn't feel the need to comment to the newbie (he will learn on his own if he keeps playing), but it got me thinking about where the sport is going - Since the young blood is the breath of life for the sport.

I guess my concern is that the skills that I and you have developed to play are not what people notice on TV, just a lot of fast shooting and they think that is what makes them good. Sounds nice for the companies selling paint and electros, but is very degrading to any real development of the professionalism of the sport.

You all play fields and see new players... when I played with new people they all wanted to be "snipers", now it seems they want to have machine guns... consume, consume, consume - Will paintball fall victim to capitalism, mostly devour itself? I see to much expensive gear, not enough people actually playing, and that is usually the opposite with sports.
g36 monkey

Re: Damn kids these days

Nickodemus wrote:
I just wanted some of your two cents on this, after my ranting. Over a trip I took last weekend in south Florida I over heard a couple young (15-16ish) kids talking about paintball. One of them goes "I've gotten so much better, I empty my hopper in like 5 seconds now"

Call me old fashioned but hearing a player relatively new to the game say that sounded like nails on a chalkboard to me. I didn't feel the need to comment to the newbie (he will learn on his own if he keeps playing), but it got me thinking about where the sport is going - Since the young blood is the breath of life for the sport.

I guess my concern is that the skills that I and you have developed to play are not what people notice on TV, just a lot of fast shooting and they think that is what makes them good. Sounds nice for the companies selling paint and electros, but is very degrading to any real development of the professionalism of the sport.

You all play fields and see new players... when I played with new people they all wanted to be "snipers", now it seems they want to have machine guns... consume, consume, consume - Will paintball fall victim to capitalism, mostly devour itself? I see to much expensive gear, not enough people actually playing, and that is usually the opposite with sports.


I know what you mean about the sniper deal, everybody used to want to be a sniper. And you are very right, things like this are pretty sad, theres a difference in being good and shooting alot.
You Wont See Me

All kids are like that.....till they start paying for their own paint. Smile
RoboCop

They could have been just talking that he has gotten better at walking the trigger. For some people it is hard to walk a gun. I have to get used to my new gun so I can walk with my right hand. I can easily walk it with my left which is odd for me because I am a right handed person. I am not sure but also I wasn't there and couldn't listen on their conversation. But most likely they were newbs and think emptying a hopper super fast makes them good.
abr5

when people are noobs, they don't see the skill needed to play, instead the just see the pros shooting really fast, so they think that is all they need to do. That would be my guess at least
tigman250

i think everyone has their own opinion of how the game is suposed to be played by what they see, when i started playing (all woodsball in my area) i wanted to be the sniper bought the 98C, flatty, lazer sight, and used all my hunting cammo. i would lay in the back of the starting point waiting for the "snipe" shot. it didn't take me playing in real games too long to realize my tequnique was a crappy one. i think the same would apply for newbs watching speedball, they think if the faster you can empty a hopper the better you are.....i don't think they will have to play much to realize there is more to winning a game than just spraying paint all over, just like i did with my sterotype of the game.

weather you like it or not paintball is going to speed ball......they don't play woodsball games on ESPN, just speed and that's what all newbs see, ESPN wouldn't play woodsball games because it's not fast pased enough, myself or you would like to watch it but for todays youth TV has to be fast pased to compete with video games and the internet. when i was a kid we had 3 channels (yes that isn't a typo.....3 channels) what is the minimum now? 100? when we got home from school all that was on was the news and i sure as hell didn't want to watch that!!! so i spent my entire youth outside tinkering, if it was raining i was in the basement tinkering. and this carried over into my adult years hell if i didn't have to watch my kids i would be outside right now!!! now kids entertain themselves with video games, internet, TV, ipods, ect. this isn't a bad thing (at least i don't think it is), times are just changing.
cdacda13

Kids learn.
As soon as they run out of money, and still get taken out by a pump player, they'll learn that shooting a case a game doesn't equal 2000 kills a game.
Nickodemus

My gripe is not with the newbs, they don't know any better.
You do remind me of something that ties to my gripe. I feel that paintball has been used as a whore to sell products, many of which are hype. Maybe I should be thanking these companies that brought paintball out of the dark ages and on to TV. However, when I see paintball on TV it isn't showing the game. I don't see a wide field view that shows one guy supress while the other moves around to get a shot behind a bunker. All I see is individual views of players, walking the trigger, showing all thier gear while they stand at a bunker, maybe a run through once in awhile. I think it is no acident that all of the air time is spent as an equipment comercial. I had a couple co-workers who enjoy watching sports on TV come up to me and say they saw paintball playing, but all it looked like was a bunch of guys shooting constantly, they had no idea overall what was going on because they could not see it. I haven't watched in a while, maybe it has gotten better, maybe now you see the whole field instead of a glimpse at it then one player, then a different player, then a different player, until the game is over? You guys tell me do they show it like normal sports, or is it something else? Would it be like watching a basket ball game that has the camera bounce between looking at players feet so you can see there shoes? Every viewer I talk to who doesn't play, got the impression that all you do is pull the trigger real fast and walk towards each other. Sadly, these newbs think the same (whereas it used to be sniper crazy). Money money money... make it socially popular as skateboards were, sell those electros and that paint, target people who will spend money they don't have on stuff they don't need.
You Wont See Me

ESPN does a much better job of giving you the overall game. They show where everyones at, where they're shooting, and so on.

Much better than PB2x
Nickodemus

I'll have to check out ESPN, thanks for the observation.
Roll Tide

They need to stop showing that same paintball tournament on ESPN. It gets soo boring.
TriggerHappy1

Its a phase for all young new players who arnt brought up in paintball properly. 80% of us were like that untill we realized how much BS it was..

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