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tigman250

project 98C~all done! videos added!!~

well here it is.....it's a little rougher than i thought but it's nothing i can't work with. it was missing the rear sight, saftey, trigger spring and the feed elbow was messed up. e-mailed the dude and he is going to send me the saftey and trigger spring and rear sight if he can find it....probably only need the trigger anayway plan on milling it anayway. another problem when the "custom" paint was applied the gun wasen't disassembled or the holes taped off so i have some extra cleaning to do. here are the pics


i already have an idea what i want to do with it but suggestions are always welcome Salut Salut
RoboCop

Put a vert feed on it and top cocking and give it a good paint job and then sell it or trade it for an A-5. It might be cheaper that way, if you were to get an A-5 for it.
You Wont See Me

What are your ideas for it?
tigman250

You Wont See Me wrote:
What are your ideas for it?


well i traded an electro marker for it soooo.....was thinking e-bolt w/LPK?? don't know about the LPK but probably e-bolt for sure......mabey
You Wont See Me

Sounds good.

That idea gets the seal of YWSM approval. Salut
Smitty

Haha. E-Bolt for sure........maybe. Laughing It deffinetly needs some work. The paintjob kind of sucks. Go Zebra Stripes like you said. that'd be awesome. I'm still not sure what to do for colors on mine.
tigman250

i figure i don't have alot into this gun so i could throw out some cash for an e-bolt.
TriggerHappy1

Ah! cant wait!
Smitty

Knowing tig he'll probably figure out someway to get the E-Bolt to shoot 30 bps. Tounge
You Wont See Me

It is uncapped in semi auto.
tigman250

it would be ok to run the e-bolt on CO2 if it's anti siphoned followed with a palmers wouldn't it?
Smitty

tigman250 wrote:
it would be ok to run the e-bolt on CO2 if it's anti siphoned followed with a palmers wouldn't it?
Yeah. I'm sure it'd work with just the Palmers too. Isn't yours a Female?
tigman250

Smitty wrote:
Yeah. I'm sure it'd work with just the Palmers too. Isn't yours a Female?


yep
You Wont See Me

Should be ok.
sinisterNorth

Oh man, I cant wait to see what you do with this thing. I like the idea of putting an e-bolt on it. You should have no problems trading it for an A5 when you're finished.
P8ntBallKing10

It looks good!!!
tigman250

sinisterNorth wrote:
Oh man, I cant wait to see what you do with this thing. I like the idea of putting an e-bolt on it. You should have no problems trading it for an A5 when you're finished.


ummm yeah if i put an e-bolt into a 98C i won't be trading it for a A-5.....IMHO e-bolt >e-grip i'll just have 2 98C's Very Happy

BTW i just scored a NIB E-bolt for $100....should be able to pick it up tomarrow after work, the dude that owns the local PB field has a few Model 98 kits he is willing to part with, he sells and installs them for $190 i told him i would be installing it myself he said he would go as low as $125 i told him no more than $100 and he went for it! YAY for me Cheers
Smitty

tigman250 wrote:
sinisterNorth wrote:
Oh man, I cant wait to see what you do with this thing. I like the idea of putting an e-bolt on it. You should have no problems trading it for an A5 when you're finished.


ummm yeah if i put an e-bolt into a 98C i won't be trading it for a A-5.....IMHO e-bolt >e-grip i'll just have 2 98C's Very Happy

BTW i just scored a NIB E-bolt for $100....should be able to pick it up tomarrow after work, the dude that owns the local PB field has a few Model 98 kits he is willing to part with, he sells and installs them for $190 i told him i would be installing it myself he said he would go as low as $125 i told him no more than $100 and he went for it! YAY for me Cheers
Get me one? Smile
tigman250

Smitty wrote:
Get me one? Smile


send me $107 and i'll make sure you get one! Salut ($7 to cover shipping)
cdacda13

Can't wait to see what you do with it
tigman250


here is the start of the milling, i don't know how carried away i want to get this time arround, i may just do the standard NN mill job just don't have the time to invest these days....although i do want it to stand out from the crowd so we'll see. enjoy the pics!
Smitty

tigman250 wrote:
Smitty wrote:
Get me one? Smile


send me $107 and i'll make sure you get one! Salut ($7 to cover shipping)
So tempting. I guess not right now. I should probably just up the CPE and get a reg for that. But first a 30g IPod Video. Then a car. I hate money, and it hates me. THumb down
g36 monkey

aww man...wish i had a 98c and 107 dollars.
tigman250

well...picked up the E-Bolt tonight and the shells are being beadblasted as i type, so hopefully i will be able to get it firing soon!
Smitty

Sweet. I will probably pass on the E-Bolt. Doesn't beadblasting it give it a shiny texture? Or is it like the Beadblasted Lapco Bigshot?
redneckdeerhunter

Cool, I too am getting a E-bolt for my project 98c, I can't wait to get it done.
tigman250

Smitty wrote:
Sweet. I will probably pass on the E-Bolt. Doesn't beadblasting it give it a shiny texture? Or is it like the Beadblasted Lapco Bigshot?


nope nice dull texture, just doing that to remove all the old paint.

redneckdeerhunter wrote:
Cool, I too am getting a E-bolt for my project 98c, I can't wait to get it done.


wanna race to see who gets done sooner? Cool
tigman250

well got it bead blasted last night and milled the clearance for the board today, here are some pics. i did it a bit diffrent than described in the tippy thread i didn't like the idea of cutting a huge hole into the front of the grip for the valve so i machined the back part of the grip to make clearance for the batteries instead, this method is snug but i think that that's better it will be less likely to bounce arround inside the grip.



Smitty

Looks good. I wish I could get mine beadblasted.
g36 monkey

tig is smart and has the resources....lucky turdmeister Confused
Ghostslinger

sorry g36 but robo should get you for that. tig, i should google this but how does beadblasting work? ive been curious.
tigman250

g36 monkey wrote:
tig is smart and has the resources....lucky turdmeister Confused


seriously.....you are retarted, every single thread get's a dose of g36's insight and wisdom....weather it needs it or not
tigman250

Ghostslinger wrote:
sorry g36 but robo should get you for that. tig, i should google this but how does beadblasting work? ive been curious.


just like sand blasting but you use glass beads for media instead of sand, it isn't as aggressive and results in a slightly smoother appearance.
Ghostslinger

ahhhhh. ok thanks. that cleared up some things.
RoboCop

tigman250 wrote:
g36 monkey wrote:
tig is smart and has the resources....lucky turdmeister Confused


seriously.....you are retarted, every single thread get's a dose of g36's insight and wisdom....weather it needs it or not

Sorry, I couldn't get this earlier but I was in a basketball game. g36, you like to push everyones buttons in almost every thread. When will you learn, your insite does not matter to us, at all..........
abr5

tigman250 wrote:

weather

spelled whether wrong.

anyways...
why would u need to mill out hte frame for the ebolt? i thought it was just like a drop in replacement, with no modifying needed?
tigman250

abr5 wrote:
tigman250 wrote:

weather

spelled whether wrong.

anyways...
why would u need to mill out hte frame for the ebolt? i thought it was just like a drop in replacement, with no modifying needed?


spelled the wrong. Laughing

anayways...
the E-Bolt i bought was for a model 98 i am putting it into a 98 Custom so the grip required some modification to get the board and batteries to fit.
g36 monkey

is there a significant difference in the m98 and the 98c ebolts?
I was just wondering because someone at school told me he shoved a m98 ebolt into his 98c with no modification, i didnt believe him because i thought they were made a lil differently.
You Wont See Me

I always thought they wre almost teh same.
Smitty

What E-Grip is it? GTA or BSI? GTA I assume?
tigman250

Smitty wrote:
What E-Grip is it? GTA or BSI? GTA I assume?


Psyco Ballistics...it's an E-Bolt not Grip the E-Grip is for the A-5
Smitty

Woops. I meant E-Bolt. Sorry. Tounge
tigman250

well got all the welding done on the halves today, filled the old cocking slot and the original feed hole, drilled a new one, then some more milling. hope to do some more work on it after the kids go to bed.
Grunt_98c

very....very nice job tig.....all the pic's of you new 98c are lookin great...yes it dose have the NN milling...but i think i looks great...i like smooth milling like on a Matrix LCD....anyways what are the up's going to be??? from the looks of it it has a boomstick and a Psyco Ballistics....to bad you did not get a used or new GTA E-bolt....if i where you i would think about doing alot of mods to the E-bolt(two way ram)...but since you did not get a GTA E-bolt that maybe harder now...anyways it looks great....time for my to get back to work on my guns now....lol Thumbs up
Smitty

Grunt_98c wrote:
very....very nice job tig.....all the pic's of you new 98c are lookin great...yes it dose have the NN milling...but i think i looks great...i like smooth milling like on a Matrix LCD....anyways what are the up's going to be??? from the looks of it it has a boomstick and a Psyco Ballistics....to bad you did not get a used or new GTA E-bolt....if i where you i would think about doing alot of mods to the E-bolt(two way ram)...but since you did not get a GTA E-bolt that maybe harder now...anyways it looks great....time for my to get back to work on my guns now....lol Thumbs up
If only I had the cash and time to do more than one. I can't hardly do mine at all anymore. School sucks. THumb down
tigman250

Grunt_98c wrote:
very....very nice job tig.....all the pic's of you new 98c are lookin great...yes it dose have the NN milling...but i think i looks great...i like smooth milling like on a Matrix LCD....anyways what are the up's going to be??? from the looks of it it has a boomstick and a Psyco Ballistics....to bad you did not get a used or new GTA E-bolt....if i where you i would think about doing alot of mods to the E-bolt(two way ram)...but since you did not get a GTA E-bolt that maybe harder now...anyways it looks great....time for my to get back to work on my guns now....lol Thumbs up


thanks grunt the milling sways a bit from the NN style but for the most part it will look prety much the same. the ups are as you described boomy and the P/B E-Bolt i will swap out my failed LP valve out of my other gun and try to redo my LP experiment on this gun now that i can easily adjust how long the valve is open. it will share the homemade centerfeed feedneck with my other gun (this will prevent me from having to loan out a gun hehe) and i will make it it's very own drop forward along with various other trinkets....well back to work!

ps i doubt i will be doing any mods to the EB itself i think it will work well beyond my capibilities LOL.
Grunt_98c

still sounds great tig....i'll be trying that custom LPK soon to....good luck.
tigman250

well i put it all together before paint last night to make sure everything worked, glad i did it has a few glitches. the trigger was a bit sticky wich turned out to be a burr i put on one of the gun halves clamping it for one of the milling processes. then when i would clamp the bodies tight the valve solenoid would quit working....this kinda fixed itself i still don't know what was causing it. also i put 3 setscrew stops on my alum stick trigger and the hinge pin is whopped out from being hammered by the R/T on my other gun so i need to address that i want this trigger to be crazy light and tight, it will require some shims to help aide in tightning the side to side slop. i also want to add an additional threadded hole in the x-chamber to accomidate my gauge so i know what my operating pressure is. (the kit reg/stab took up the extra hole on my palmers) oh yeah i need to get more hose too....they sent barely enough in the kit!

i'll keep you posted and hopefully get some pics up tonight.
tigman250

completly finished up the install of the E-Bolt tonight, just a few trigger tweaks left. i want to make a custom holder for the palmers and a new drop forward and a trigger guard, then of course....paint.

pics


i know there are screws missing short hoses and many other little things they will all be addressed.....eventually.
Smitty

Nice. You're getting this done really quick. School sucks.........I have hardly any time for mine! THumb down
g36 monkey

yea tig, it looks really nice as of now, cant wait to see a finished project, i may be buying my cousins 98c to better help me understand the internals of the marker and not really worry too much about screwin it up, i wouldnt paint it though cuz its the camo one. Confused
anyways, looks sweet tig, what trigger is that too Thinking I like it
redneckdeerhunter

What tool(s) did you use to make the grip where the ebolt could fit? And also, did you do it to both sides of the grip?
tigman250

g36 monkey wrote:
what trigger is that too Thinking I like it


thanks i made it.
tigman250

redneckdeerhunter wrote:
What tool(s) did you use to make the grip where the ebolt could fit? And also, did you do it to both sides of the grip?


i used a bridgeport mill and the board only requires material removal from one half and the battery i had to mill both halves.
g36 monkey

are the triggers very difficult to make? and are you gonna but a trigger guard on there?
the trigger is our of aluminum too, correct? sorry for all the questions, my neighbor is supposed to be gettin a welder soon and i wanna see if i can try and make some stuff for my gun.
tigman250

g36 monkey wrote:
are the triggers very difficult to make? and are you gonna but a trigger guard on there?
the trigger is our of aluminum too, correct? sorry for all the questions, my neighbor is supposed to be gettin a welder soon and i wanna see if i can try and make some stuff for my gun.


to make a trigger you need a mill, drill bits, endmill and files. yes i plan on making a trigger guard.
g36 monkey

i got drill bits and files Cheers ha ha, no custom triggers for me, yours looks very nice though, then again, what do you make that doesnt Cool
I am just anticipating the outcome of this beast Rambo
tigman250

finishing up the trigger mods, i got to say for a Tippmann this is going to be sweet!! the trigger pull and weight i think will rival the high end guns Cheers (can't really say for sure....haven't ever shot a high end gun)

watch out Angel owners....here comes my Tippy! it might weigh a ton, shoot so-so and be a yard long but dang it sure has a nice trigger pull!!

i still need to ream the holes in the trigger and the gun halves and make a pin that fits perfectly it still has a teeny tiny amount of side to side wobble....but i'll get it perfect!!
Ghostslinger

still want to consider your own line of guns? i have a feeling these tigman 98 customs will be very popular Cool
g36 monkey

i know id buy one in a heartbeat,and you could sell em way higher, when people do custom work on stuff its so expensive.
tigman250

well project has been on hold waiting for the gun with the GTA e-bolt in it to arrive......it finally made it! installed it all in the gun and it's a very nice kit drops right in, the only thing i don't like about it is the bulky looking low pressure regulator, i think i am going to use the one that came with the psyco ballistics kit instead, not only does the tippmann one look wierd but the smaller one works with my female palmers......the tippy one won't.

i have some stuff i want to make for the new setup, i want to make a drop that will house the 9V battery and switch because i don't like the big bulky battery compartment on the side of the gun, i took all the time to weld shut the cocking hole i don't want to cover it up! then i want to make a custom palmers mount, i am currently using a rifle scope ring and don't like the looks of it, i may just weld it to the drop too, or mabey incorperate it into the battery holder somehow. whatever i decide to do i want to finish it by the end of the month....i got alot of crap going on and want this out of my hair!
sinisterNorth

Very nice work so far. Keep it up, I cant wait to see it finished. Cheers
tigman250

got the drop made it will hold the 9V battery and the on/off switch as well as hide the hose that feeds the EB valve. getting pretty excited, hopefully have it done by next weekend because Sat i have a speedball game to play Cheers hopefully get pics up for you tomarrow.....too lazy tonight.
You Wont See Me

Can't wait to see this
g36 monkey

sounds pretty awesome....good luck tig Rambo
Smitty

I NEED PICS!!!!!
tigman250

well, base coat is on the gun and finish coat is on the drop, sory i have been such a hoser about getting up pics of the progress but i barely have time to work on it let alone take pics, upload, ect. i will hopefully have it done tomarrow night i need to pick up a length of 1/16" hose and a 1/4"-28 bolt for the trigger stop other than that i should have everything i need. i will definatly get it painted tomarrow night doubt i will get it fully assembled but paint is the main thing, in case i do happen to use it this weekend it will have time to dry
g36 monkey

im sure we can all wait a lil longer for it.....we just are dying to see another one of tigs masterpieces.
tigman250

paint is finished just need to reassemble and finish wiring, it turned out nice but i never know until it's fully assembled, i have to see it all together to see if i truely like it Thinking if i don't i don't know what the heck i will do, just paint it flat black LOL. sry still no pics mabey tomarrow.
Smitty

You're KILLING me!!!!!!
tigman250

here it is!


i can't air it up yet because i bought too short of a fitting today for the LP chamber, other than that it is done. the drop houses the battery and switch, just remove 4 screws and you can replace the battery. it is equiped with a homemade blade trigger side shimmed and drilled and tapped for micro stop and firing adjustments. it has a homemade palmers mount, LP chamber and centerfeed. lastly it has a GTA E-Bolt and Dye boomy.....enjoy! let me know what you think.
g36 monkey

Laughing the zebra is very awesome and very original.....yet another one of tigs works of art....very nice tig Cool
RoboCop

Finally some pics. Looks good.
abr5

its a beast
You Wont See Me

Its looking good, nice drop.
Smitty

You're hot!! I mean..........you're gun's hot. Smile Great job as usual tig. Maybe I should try a cow pattern on my old 98c. Hmmm........
tigman250

LOL cow pattern would be awesome Smitty!

thanks for all the compliments guys!
Grunt_98c

that looks great dude....but still co2???? i know it is hard to find....but great job man....i think the LP chamber with the guage is great....you should maybe make a custom fore grip...for that milling maybe...but it gets a 10 out of 10 in my book...
tigman250

well just tuned it up and shot it and only two words can describe how i like it EFFING AWESOME!!!!

i am running 350 psi with the dwell set to factory specs and the ram regulator lower than the specs call for, wich should give me some pretty sweet efficiency. concistancy over the chrono is prety good also ( i expected a bit better but my stabilizer isn't broken in yet) the E-Bolt teamed up with the Boomy is a pretty accurate setup, i wish all you guys could shoot it because it's like no Tippmann i have ever shot before, i'm sure there are much better Tippmanns out there but this is the best it's going to get for me!

coulpe of vids
Click here to watch feeble-walking-attempt
Click here to watch blender-baby
tigman250

[quote="Grunt_98c"]but still co2???? quote]

~hangs head in shame~
yeah Grunt, i looked into HPA but as much as i play it wouldn't be worth it. and with the anti-siphon and palmers i don't get any freese ups at all! well mabey the bottle gets a bit frosty!LOL
HS

Nicest 98C I've ever seen, overall.
Smitty

tigman250 wrote:
i wish all you guys could shoot it because it's like no Tippmann i have ever shot before.
Sure. Just send it to me and I'll send it right back! Smile
Grunt_98c

[quote="tigman250"]
Grunt_98c wrote:
but still co2???? quote]

~hangs head in shame~
yeah Grunt, i looked into HPA but as much as i play it wouldn't be worth it. and with the anti-siphon and palmers i don't get any freese ups at all! well mabey the bottle gets a bit frosty!LOL

i know dude....don't worry...you are tig...you get to do whatever you feel like...anyways could you post the vids on http://www.youtube.com/ so i could watch them(stupid mac...but i got a new HD monitor...lol).
g36 monkey

dude...it is awesome....for someone who cant walk Laughing
sweet tippy
Ghostslinger

walking isnt an issue... its tig people! i have to say its one of the most interesting tippmanns ive seen yet. keep it up man.
abr5

o wow tig, you are my hero

<3
sinisterNorth

Tight gun. Amazing work. I want one...
tigman250

this gun is for sale also

HERE

and HERE
g36 monkey

this is such a shame, i remember the excitement of you makin that puppy

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