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Roll Tide

Some Competition for the Ion

SP is making so much damn money off the Ion because it's a decent marker for a low price. I was thinking in Biology that DYE should put out a marker in similar level (price and performance) to the Ion. DYE's reputation alone would carry them. n00bs and people who know their stuff would both buy it. They might even use Proto as a brand name to avoid DYE being directly associated with low priced guns. Yeah, I know R&D would cost a lot, but SP really hit a goldmine with their idea. Now there just needs to be some competition.

I was thinking a Matrix (DM3 possibly Proto)) style marker, with a cheaper stock barrel, reg, board/software, grips, bolt, etc. Just strip the Proto down even more. Then put a $300-$350 price tag on it and people will buy it. Being an Ion owner, I would trade in the Ion in a second if DYE did this. Just a thought...

I'm trying to get up some drawings on what my version would look like...
cdacda13

spool valve markers cost a lot of money to make.

Used DM3s are only going for 250$ now.
abr5

they gotta get some cool milling too, n00bs would like that
Roll Tide

Here are my drawings. Very rough, so don't make fun of me. All but the last were done during Biology.


I started with as close of a copy of the Proto 'Trix as I could get.


I transformed it. I increased the body size, simplified the milling, added a non-clamping feedneck and a crappy reg. It is now called the Proto MX, standing for Matrix-X; with X being an unnamed factor.


Then I got fancy. I added a 90* (which looks pretty cool), Sidewinder/2 Liter reg, put on the Flames of Fury eye cover, and did what I named "Ridgeback Milling".

Enjoy.
abr5

nice, looks kinda like a DMC (the top one)
i don't like the 90, i dunno y, but i never have, but i know alot of peeps that like em
cdacda13

I love 90* frames.

While I agree that some other company SHOULD make a cheap gun compared to the ion.

SP hyped the ion so damn much, itr sick.
Roll Tide

The 90* frame got me thinking... WDP could also do it. Anything with "Angel" on it, the newbs will eat that up.
HS

cdacda13 wrote:
I love 90* frames.

While I agree that some other company SHOULD make a cheap gun compared to the ion.

SP hyped the ion so damn much, itr sick.

90's are teh awesome.

And I am getting sick of "Ion this" and "Ion that"

Bring on some competition!
cdacda13

Roll Tide wrote:
The 90* frame got me thinking... WDP could also do it. Anything with "Angel" on it, the newbs will eat that up.

WDP doesn't care less about the low end marker
Roll Tide

cdacda13 wrote:
Roll Tide wrote:
The 90* frame got me thinking... WDP could also do it. Anything with "Angel" on it, the newbs will eat that up.

WDP doesn't care less about the low end marker


But they do care about profit. And this could be profitable. I still think DYE/Proto is the best canidate.
abr5

i dunno, n00bs would love to say "i own an angel" but i guess that would kinda ruin the angel name
TriggerHappy1

As long as theres lower priced guns out there, people will still buy the high priced ones to be on top of them. I think the next generation of markers will be low-priced high-ends. And companys like WDP will stay smart and stay where they are so people who want someting better will pick up an Angel.
g36 monkey

i like the idea of having a competition gun. I would most likely take the dye gun over the ion, as long as it doesnt have that ugly thing where you can change the body, thats so corny, just paint it yourself or get it in the color you want. But dye should do that, i might even buy it.
redneckdeerhunter

if DYE cam out with a gun simalr to the ION i would buy it
sinisterNorth

The Ion really could use some competition. I'm pretty sick of people saying "My Ion is the best gun there is. I bought tons of ups and I rock!". Now granted, not everyone does this, but the people who do need to be shot.

Even if Dye or some other company made a competitor, I could still see the Ion doing well. I dont think anything dramatic would happen.
g36 monkey

this is true, but since everyone is sick of the ion, if dye made one, it would be the new thing. Then they would get sik of hearing about that gun and go back to the ion. Then dye would make its gun cheaper, then the ion would get cheaper. Pretty soon both would be about $100 each.
Roll Tide

g36 monkey wrote:
this is true, but since everyone is sick of the ion, if dye made one, it would be the new thing. Then they would get sik of hearing about that gun and go back to the ion. Then dye would make its gun cheaper, then the ion would get cheaper. Pretty soon both would be about $100 each.


Highly unlikely.
g36 monkey

yea i know, maybe like $190 over time after it gets cheaper and cheaper to make them.
sinisterNorth

Even if competition does come up against the Ion, I doubt it'll go under $200.
abr5

yea, they companies woud be making so littel money over the gun, they woyld stop making em
g36 monkey

Alrighty then, say they both get to $200 and around christmas time thye bump it up a little. Santa
tarallo

High ends won't go under $300. All the other companies, including SP, will continue to make more expensive high end guns (Shockers, Timmies, Timmies, DM4/5/Cs, etc) and they will sell.

Ask anyone, and I think they would say they prefer to have an Ego than an Ion.
Roll Tide

tarallo wrote:
High ends won't go under $300. All the other companies, including SP, will continue to make more expensive high end guns (Shockers, Timmies, Timmies, DM4/5/Cs, etc) and they will sell.

Ask anyone, and I think they would say they prefer to have an Ego than an Ion.


Worst comparison I have ever seen in my life. Of course I would rather have a Ferrari than a Chevy, but I don't have four times the money to spend. Not is willing to spend four times the money for less than four times the gun.
g36 monkey

I think on tippy somebody had like an angel, ion, a-5, or omen i think it was. If your going to compare guns give them in at least a $100 price range, of course a gun $700 more is going to be wanted more, just some people dont have the money.

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